Meth laced Ecstasy – Extreme Ecstasy

I’ve been hearing alot about this recently on forums and in the news. I suppose that’s because of a recent press release by Drug Czar John Walters. In the press release, Mr. Walters coined the phrase “Extreme Ecstasy” when he stated:

This ‘extreme ecstasy’ is a disturbing development in what has been one of the most significant international achievements against the illicit drug trade.

He goes on to say:

The dangerous poly-drug combination of methamphetamine and ecstasy can have severe health consequences, especially as both drugs have toxic effects on the brain. They both can interfere with the body’s ability to regulate temperature, leading to sharp increases in body temperature (hyperthermia), which can result in liver, kidney and cardiovascular system failure and death. The potential for a life-threatening or fatal overdose is also increased when meth-laced ecstasy is combined with alcohol. Recent laboratory research suggests that ecstasy and meth combinations may produce greater adverse neurochemical and behavioral effects than either drug alone.

Yes, of course some of the ecstasy on the streets does contain meth. The answer is really quite simple: Money. Meth is chemically similar to MDMA (ecstasy) and because of the simple fact that meth is much cheaper to produce than MDMA (ecstacy) and also has the added “benefit” of being a stimulant, it is a no-brainer for the manufacturer to add meth to the mix. Meth is certainly not the only cheap “filler” added to ecstasy and many times meth is left out completely depending on the manufacturer.

The drug Czar would have us believe this is a recent epidemic; however meth being added to some batches of ecstasy has been happening quite possibly since ecstasy’s inception. Either way, if you were planning to take a hit of “E” then you are already gambling. You could really be ingesting all sorts of chemicals; last I checked the ecstasy industry wasn’t exactly regulated.


  • http://druglibrary.org/schaffer Cliff Schaffer

    Just FYI, the whole “extreme ecstasy” claim by Drug Czar John Walters has just been thoroughly debunked by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. They say they have no clue what he is talking about. Among other things, the incidence of meth in ecstasy has been dropping. See http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/01/20/4

    But that is nothing new. The US Government has had a dedicated campaign to lie about drugs since at least 1925. You can’t believe anything they say on the subject.

    Also FYI, what is the greatest single cause of drug epidemics among US children? It is hysterical anti-drug campaigns, like the ones promoted by John Walters. See the chapters titled “How to Launch a Nationwide Drug Menace”, “How Speed Was Popularized”, and “How LSD Was Popularized” in the Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies

  • http://druglibrary.org/schaffer Cliff Schaffer

    Just FYI, the whole “extreme ecstasy” claim by Drug Czar John Walters has just been thoroughly debunked by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. They say they have no clue what he is talking about. Among other things, the incidence of meth in ecstasy has been dropping. See http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/01/20/4783624-cp.html

    But that is nothing new. The US Government has had a dedicated campaign to lie about drugs since at least 1925. You can’t believe anything they say on the subject.

    Also FYI, what is the greatest single cause of drug epidemics among US children? It is hysterical anti-drug campaigns, like the ones promoted by John Walters. See the chapters titled “How to Launch a Nationwide Drug Menace”, “How Speed Was Popularized”, and “How LSD Was Popularized” in the Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/cu/cumenu.htm

  • daniel

    Hi,

    as I cant exactly interprete this text because Im not a native speaker … anyway.

    In Europe-Germany, maybe we have a rather relaxed attitude towards drugs as in US, I can agree on the fact that most of the Extasy I came across – as a temporarily user from 1994 – 1996 – and as a rarly user nowadays, there are several subtances you never know about.

    I guess there is no difference between Europe and US.

    In the early days, starting in the 90es, it was just normal that Extasy could contain Amphetamin, Heroin, Ketamin… along other stuff to mke the production cheap. At these times, you rarly came across pills that were purly MDMA.

    Since the club szene wanted pure MDMA since ever, I realized that in the last years, pure Crystal MDMA is getting more and more accessable. Of course its more expensive.

    Extasy pills range from 5 Euros up to 10 Euros (8 to 17 US-Dollars). We bought on a open-air festival two years ago 1 gramm of pure Crystal MDMA for 50 Euros. Meth is at a range from 10-15 Euros/gramm.

    Ah, wanted to state: I stopped using chemicals in the 90es with some inconsistance during the last 3 years.

    Please stay off from Meth or Cocaine as this is just making you depressive and feel like a worthless Zombie.

    Just remember Jonny Depp saying: Why should I carry my brain to a guy who is only interessted in making profit out of it?

    Right he is… stick to good wine and light spliffs if there is any need of occaisionally raising the pits or lowing the heights :0)

    sincere
    Daniel

  • daniel

    Hi,

    as I cant exactly interprete this text because Im not a native speaker … anyway.

    In Europe-Germany, maybe we have a rather relaxed attitude towards drugs as in US, I can agree on the fact that most of the Extasy I came across – as a temporarily user from 1994 – 1996 – and as a rarly user nowadays, there are several subtances you never know about.

    I guess there is no difference between Europe and US.

    In the early days, starting in the 90es, it was just normal that Extasy could contain Amphetamin, Heroin, Ketamin… along other stuff to mke the production cheap. At these times, you rarly came across pills that were purly MDMA.

    Since the club szene wanted pure MDMA since ever, I realized that in the last years, pure Crystal MDMA is getting more and more accessable. Of course its more expensive.

    Extasy pills range from 5 Euros up to 10 Euros (8 to 17 US-Dollars). We bought on a open-air festival two years ago 1 gramm of pure Crystal MDMA for 50 Euros. Meth is at a range from 10-15 Euros/gramm.

    Ah, wanted to state: I stopped using chemicals in the 90es with some inconsistance during the last 3 years.

    Please stay off from Meth or Cocaine as this is just making you depressive and feel like a worthless Zombie.

    Just remember Jonny Depp saying: Why should I carry my brain to a guy who is only interessted in making profit out of it?

    Right he is… stick to good wine and light spliffs if there is any need of occaisionally raising the pits or lowing the heights :0)

    sincere
    Daniel

  • http://www.cliffsidemalibu.com/drug-treatment/drug-treatment-center/ Drug treatment centers

    I don't doubt that these drugs are dangerous, that's why I keep them far from me. On the other hand I can't understand how can people find the drugs appealing. We are talking about life threatening drugs, what could possibly be tempting about them? Few minutes of happiness? Do they worth a life? I doubt that.

  • shelly123

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  • shelly123

    Drug addiction is taking everyone in its fatal hands, so it is
    essential to have proper awareness in order to avoid
    any kind of health hazard. In order to save humanity we all should
    take assistance from Substance Abuse Centers
    to move in apt direction.
    Shelly Smith

    Hawaii Drug Treatment Centers

  • http://www.gunbroker.com/ charles

    You can order test kits cheaply online to test your own mdma or mda.

  • Scarlet

    The likelihood of dying from ecstasy is very low. Unless you've experience the drug, you could not understand the appeal. It's something you can't undo…but you don't want to go back. It's not chemically addicting, but physically it sure is. Society functions in a way that kids feel trapped. We have to go to school, get a normal job. Where did our hopes and dreams we had during childhood go? It takes you back in a way to that innocense…where life had meaning. That's what I want. Now tell me, where can I find that? Now I'm just speaking from personal experience. I'm almost 18 years old and I have so many aspirations, but I'm trapped. I have overprotective parents who are college-minded and I am not free. I found freedom once. That was ecstasy.

  • Xoxoloveyalots

    on 9-2-10 my sister lost her life from this. I hope everyone understands how serious this is. She had a massive brain aneurysm and was brain dead upon arrival at the hospital. I have to bury my 18 year old sister, because people want to make more money.

  • Brendand88

    Ok just so everyone knows ecstasy almost always contains meth. Anyone who says it doesnt is an idiot. Actually pills contain mostly meth and a tiny little bit of mdma. Moli is the pure form of ecstasy which contains mostly mdma and usually no other hard drugs. So any one on here that says theyve done ecstasy and its not addicting is incorrect. If uve done x that means u took a pill which means uve probably done meth.

  • J_jones_01

    all of this is the result of prohibition so this is really circular logic.
    criminals make ecstacy, the chemicals are tightly controlled so naturally they will cut corners,
    which in turn gives more impetus to step up prohibition.
    business as usual.

  • Gbrdsihbj

    On some levels you can be correct, but If swim knew the person making them and saw every thing they did then? There are pure pills out there. Swim knew a guy doing pills for 3 years, and he stopped cold turkey.

  • SuckAdickbendan

    You’re dumb as shit..